Cleveland National Air Show 2023

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Post by nosaints24 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:44 pm

F-14B wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:25 pm Marine Corp Harrier added to the show
It’s been there all along.
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Post by DannyFez » Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:21 am

Looks like the 135 will be on it's own then, I was hoping the schedule would show it and the F-15(s) back to back for the chance of a formation AR demo. Mustn't grumble though I'll take it all the same.
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Post by columbus_spots » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:23 pm

I've heard the USAF will not be landing any of their preforming aircraft at Lakefront and instead at Cleveland Hopkins Int. this is due to a history of bird strikes with USAF planes landing at Lakefront, if anyone can confirm or deny these claims that would be nice. (Heard this from an airshow volunteer)

And a bit more off topic from above, does anyone know the possibility of the F-22 doing a flare dump over the lake?
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Post by Imladris18 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:47 pm

columbus_spots wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:23 pm I've heard the USAF will not be landing any of their preforming aircraft at Lakefront and instead at Cleveland Hopkins Int. this is due to a history of bird strikes with USAF planes landing at Lakefront, if anyone can confirm or deny these claims that would be nice. (Heard this from an airshow volunteer)

And a bit more off topic from above, does anyone know the possibility of the F-22 doing a flare dump over the lake?
I believe the actual reason is runway length requirements (bird strike thing is a common rumor), but yes all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins.

Super Hornet and Harrier will stage at Burke.
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Post by columbus_spots » Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:57 pm

Imladris18 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:47 pm
columbus_spots wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:23 pm I've heard the USAF will not be landing any of their preforming aircraft at Lakefront and instead at Cleveland Hopkins Int. this is due to a history of bird strikes with USAF planes landing at Lakefront, if anyone can confirm or deny these claims that would be nice. (Heard this from an airshow volunteer)

And a bit more off topic from above, does anyone know the possibility of the F-22 doing a flare dump over the lake?
I believe the actual reason is runway length requirements (bird strike thing is a common rumor), but yes all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins.

Super Hornet and Harrier will stage at Burke.

"all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins." by hearing that are you saying the A-10 Demo will be at cleveland this year? or am i overthinking it?
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Post by passedgas46 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:28 pm

columbus_spots wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:57 pm
Imladris18 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:47 pm
columbus_spots wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:23 pm I've heard the USAF will not be landing any of their preforming aircraft at Lakefront and instead at Cleveland Hopkins Int. this is due to a history of bird strikes with USAF planes landing at Lakefront, if anyone can confirm or deny these claims that would be nice. (Heard this from an airshow volunteer)

And a bit more off topic from above, does anyone know the possibility of the F-22 doing a flare dump over the lake?
I believe the actual reason is runway length requirements (bird strike thing is a common rumor), but yes all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins.

Super Hornet and Harrier will stage at Burke.

"all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins." by hearing that are you saying the A-10 Demo will be at cleveland this year? or am i overthinking it?
I've been to Cleveland many times in the past 25+ years and I can honestly say that I don't recall seeing any USAF fighter take off or land at that airport. I've seen A-10s take off and land there, including the demo team. I think you need to reread that statement because they only told you what the USAF has done in the past.
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Post by Imladris18 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:34 pm

columbus_spots wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:57 pm
Imladris18 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:47 pm
columbus_spots wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:23 pm I've heard the USAF will not be landing any of their preforming aircraft at Lakefront and instead at Cleveland Hopkins Int. this is due to a history of bird strikes with USAF planes landing at Lakefront, if anyone can confirm or deny these claims that would be nice. (Heard this from an airshow volunteer)

And a bit more off topic from above, does anyone know the possibility of the F-22 doing a flare dump over the lake?
I believe the actual reason is runway length requirements (bird strike thing is a common rumor), but yes all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins.

Super Hornet and Harrier will stage at Burke.

"all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins." by hearing that are you saying the A-10 Demo will be at cleveland this year? or am i overthinking it?
Overthinking it lol. A-10 demo will be at Wings Over Batavia this weekend.

Just saying how the USAF demos in general operate when at CNAS.
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Post by columbus_spots » Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:39 pm

Imladris18 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:34 pm
columbus_spots wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:57 pm
Imladris18 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:47 pm

I believe the actual reason is runway length requirements (bird strike thing is a common rumor), but yes all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins.

Super Hornet and Harrier will stage at Burke.

"all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins." by hearing that are you saying the A-10 Demo will be at cleveland this year? or am i overthinking it?
Overthinking it lol. A-10 demo will be at Wings Over Batavia this weekend.

Just saying how the USAF demos in general operate when at CNAS.

ah okay, thanks for letting me know, im super exited for the airshow though, definitely the best Cleveland has been in a long time!
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Post by BigWonton » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:44 pm

Curious if anybody is planning on going downtown to catch any of the practice sessions on Friday.

It's been a couple of years since I've been down there but you used to be able to find a spot in Voinovich park for some decent photos - might try again this year.
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Post by dzirzow » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:22 pm

Imladris18 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:34 pm
columbus_spots wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:57 pm
Imladris18 wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:47 pm

I believe the actual reason is runway length requirements (bird strike thing is a common rumor), but yes all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins.

Super Hornet and Harrier will stage at Burke.

"all USAF demos except the A-10 stage from Hopkins." by hearing that are you saying the A-10 Demo will be at cleveland this year? or am i overthinking it?
Overthinking it lol. A-10 demo will be at Wings Over Batavia this weekend.

Just saying how the USAF demos in general operate when at CNAS.
It's been this way (officially or unofficially - you can choose version) since 1981 when the Thunderbirds lost their commander leaving after the show. Ingested bird on takeoff in T-38 and ejected into the breakwall. Hit youtube and you can see videos of both the Tbirds and Blues landing at Burke in F-4s. Is what it is.......
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